Monday, September 6, 2010

Crocodile Sanctuary in Belize Destroyed by Mob

ACES team captures a problematic croc on Ambergris Caye.

Press Release - Amercian Crocodile Education Sanctuary - September 6, 2010 - In the early morning hours of September 5th, a frenzied mob of Mayan-Belizean villagers set fire to the American Crocodile sanctuary that a Colorado,USA couple spent the last six years creating. “We’ve lost everything,” said Cherie Chenot-Rose, co-owner and founder of the American Crocodile Sanctuary for Education (ACES). The sanctuary was located in Punta Gorda, Belize.

The mob was apparently riled in to a frenzy by a Mayan “psychic” who claimed that two children, who have been missing for the last week, had been fed to the crocodiles at the sanctuary. It is alleged that the same group of villagers are responsible for burning other homes in the past several months in the Toledo District, the southern most portion of Belize.

Luckily, Cherie and her husband Vince Rose were in San Pedro on the island of Ambergris Caye when the mob attacked. At the request of the Belize Forest Department the team were rescuing three problem crocs, and meeting with top Belize tourism officials discussing the prospect of creating an American Crocodile sanctuary on the island.

Reports are that the mob shot and killed some of the 17 crocs held in captivity at the sanctuary. Also destroyed were the Rose’s two story home that included a laboratory and nursery for baby crocs. One baby American Crocodile was to be flown to Chicago to the Wildlife Discovery Center in Lake Forest, Ill. USA for the first ever animal exchange program between Belize and the USA. Over $2,500 in vet supplies that were recently donated for a new humane society that Cherie, along with other locals were working on in Punta Gorda were also lost. “This one wrongful incident has effected and hurt many innocent people and animals,” added Cherie.

Also destroyed by the fire were two cabañas where visiting guests and research students would stay.

Vince and Cherie are now homeless and do not have anything to their name, said Cherie. “Our lives have been threatened if we return to Punta Gorda,” she said. “We are not sure how to handle the situation, but the villagers and the country of Belize need to be held accountable,” stressed Rose.

Seeking help from the United States Embassy in Belize proved to be fruitless. “They just told us what it will cost to replace our passports,” Vince grumbled.

The two missing children have yet to be found. They were reportedly in Punta Gorda with their father and uncle to sell lime and craboo on Monday and were last seen in Cattle Landing Village a few miles out of town. “We pray these children turn up safely,” said Cherie. The Roses were not connected with the children in any way. The Roses were in San Pedro at the time the children disappeared.

Social media sites including facebook.com and belizeforums.com are buzzing with discussions about the ACES tragedy. “As all the emails come in with help and prayers I'm having a hard time holding it together,” wrote Cherie on her FACEBOOK page. “God Bless you all for being there… We have lost literally everything of our lives. Not just what we built here the past 6 years, but everything…This is going to be a long hard process, but we are going to fight and not run away. There will be another ACES somewhere … some day. Heart broken, but happy Vince and I are unharmed.”

Donations can be made:
International wiring account number for donations
Belize Bank # 630-1-1-10130
Account# Vince & Cherie Rose Fire Victim Account

Related links:
http://www.americancrocodilesanctuary.org/



END

ACES compound on the Rio Grande River in Punta Gorda, Belize

72 comments:

Anonymous said...

Excellent article. My thoughts and prayers go to Vince & Cherie, and their remaining animals. Please keep reporting on this story - I want to know what happens as far as justice is concerned.

Anonymous said...

There is no justice in 3rd world countries.

Anonymous said...

Belize is not ready for independence. Crime all over the country and Belize City is a Night in civil war. Will there be a day when now body is killed in 300'000 people country?

People in Belize, still believe in magic and evil things. San Carlos in PG still have inquisition.

When will Belize be ready for the 21th century?

I'm sure CNN, FOX, NBC and BCC will bring this in prime time. This is terror, this is 9/11 and it happened in Belize, just south of the US and Mexico.

GtB said...

Its a shame for Belize. No wonder tourism and economic suffers.

We live in a country with crime and ignorance, so sad for our kids and our future.

IsleManage said...

The guilty Mob should pay with their own property to replace what was destroyed. The psychic must be a fake or they would have foreseen what their actions would do to harm an endangered species and selfless Hard working ethical peoples personal property. This has brought shame to the community of Punta Gorda and the Country of Belize.

Anonymous said...

Strange how Vince in 2002 lived in Colorado and was a self employed contractor and managed a resort you cannot find on the web, and now he is a crocodile behaviorist

Anonymous said...

There is a reason you can't find the Resort that Vince worked at in Colorado. He worked for someone who's name you would all probably recognize, and respect. It wasn't open to the public. I know, because I was lucky enough to have been there once.

what's that I detect??? Envy???

Anonymous said...

I know the name of the resort and know he was the general manager. The point is, how did he get to be a croc expert with that type of background?

Anonymous said...

Probably with many many years of Life Experience with all kinds of wildlife, wouldn't you think?

Anonymous said...

Maybe he became an expert after working with them for the last 6 years, and if you knew him you wouldnt question his talents.

Anonymous said...

People running a legit nonprofit animal rescue organization have something about their background, qualifications on their website.I cannot find anything like that on the website for ACES. All I see is a picture of Vince with a starfish on his head.

Paladin said...

"The psychic must be a fake or they would have foreseen what their actions would do to harm an endangered species and selfless Hard working ethical peoples personal property."

Right. As opposed to all those real psychics?

TLP said...

Those savages are a bunch of wild freaks. Any population who takes it's advice from "psychics" should be embargoed from polluting civilization with their filth.

H.H. said...

The psychic must be a fake or they would have foreseen what their actions would do...

ALL psychics are fakes. This is what happens when you trust in magic and pseudoscience. When the gullible stop trusting con men like psychics and priests the world will be a better place.

Anonymous said...

Agree here...Belize shows her pride this month in celebrating independence....from what?...it has gone down hill every since. Hate to say it but...going independent was the biggest mistake ever...obviously there is still help needed...something Britain could have helped out with. It such a beautiful country, but the lack of any kind of public ordnance, justice system and corruption will destroy this beautiful country.
As matter of effect...I don't see it much advertised on Travelocity anymore.....but rather on "Criminal Underground" as the place to be....soooo sad.

Nick Gardner said...

it isn't like you have to be an actual expert and know everything about a species just to save it. you only need to know enough in general to take care of the animal properly--- i get the impression probably of course they have other people helping them who probably know more personally about the animals.

What a sad story of ignorance. :(

Anonymous said...

Once you convince people that a guy rose from the dead and now talks to them, you can get them to do anything.

Anonymous said...

We need UN Troops to get back Law and Order. The Police is so corrupt they sold over 160 police cars in the last 2 years.

Belize can not sub stain itself.
Independence was the biggest mistake at all, nothing to celebrate.
Since 1981 more crime, more pollution more poverty.

Anonymous said...

Hello from Carbondale Colorado:

The past home of the Rose family.

Well they both fooled Belize for a long time.

You let a Carpenter and a School Teacher take care of croc's.

The Mayan's must have known something.

Anonymous said...

I'm surprised that so many 'intelligent' people can just readily disregard a bunch of villagers on one 'psychic' MISLEAD and totally get on the side of two people because of their nationality. Have you ever considered that you all haven't heard the whole story? Why would so many people be angry with ONE man based on a psychic ALONE. I am sure you didn't hear the people of the village were so horrible previous to this. One anonymous before me is questioning the Vincent Rose's history or life before Belize. Do you know how many fugitives have been captured here in the past 5 years? Yes...and they've been on the internet and public places without fear because somehow they feel very comfortable in this trusting society that we Belizeans call home.
I listened to a telephone call to one of the radio shows yesterday and a gentleman called to say that this American filed a report for slanderous words...for calling him a child molester BEFORE the children went missing. "She saw the kids in the company of this man and asked them what they were doing with him. She told them stay away from the man as they don't know if he's a child molester." This is why she's being sued according to the phone call. This story also gives light as to why these villagers are so upset. The children have been in this man's company before. With this info thrown in amongst all the 'bull' and media frenzy that is being served on the internet/tv, I have reason to query the couple.....OR should I say, the police has reason to investigate FULLY the background of these Americans. Even investigate the relationship with the villagers BEFORE all this.
If they are fully legit. Maybe they could share with us here.
Could somebody tell me who is Vincent Rose and if that's even his original name?
One more thing - Where in the world has special numbers assigned to people who PAY for psychic readings? Huh? Certainly NOT Belize!

Anonymous said...

This mob violence is shameful and must be fully condemned. There is no justification for any society to destroy others as a result of psychic readings.

At the same time, through all the emotions one has to be careful not to blame the entire country for this. To case Belizeans who condemn this act into negative blanket statements is perpetuating the same behavior of destroying innocent others.

It is also useful to rationally understand that this behavior of destroying lives and property of innocent persons because of "psychic" delusions also occur in so called "developed" country. We do not have to go far back to see this in the destruction of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis because of the "psychic" suspicion of Bush (which of course has proven to be false.) But we cannot blame the entire US for the savage wrath of destructions it has done on innocent lives in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Nicaragua, Guatemala and all over the world.

The lesson in all this is that people must be grounded in respect for higher truths. Let's stop dividing ourselves, let's stop the violence, let's return to respect and love across countries, across borders, across peoples.

Anonymous said...

This is Bull Shit! Why on earth do we have an Embassy in that particular Monkey Country if in fact they are not willing to help those in need. I hope that Vince and Cherie know that there are many of us in the states that will not sit idle while this takes place. If our own Embassy will not step in and take action then we shall do it for them. Vince and Cherie please take solace that you are not forgotten back home. We love you!

Vince's Sister said...

"Could somebody tell me who is Vincent Rose and if that's even his original name?"


I can. I'm his sister. That's his birth name.

Vince's sister said...

"I listened to a telephone call to one of the radio shows yesterday and a gentleman called to say that this American filed a report for slanderous words...for calling him a child molester BEFORE the children went missing. "She saw the kids in the company of this man and asked them what they were doing with him. She told them stay away from the man as they don't know if he's a child molester." This is why she's being sued according to the phone call. This story also gives light as to why these villagers are so upset. The children have been in this man's company before. With this info thrown in amongst all the 'bull' and media frenzy that is being served on the internet/tv, I have reason to query the couple.....OR should I say, the police has reason to investigate FULLY the background of these Americans. Even investigate the relationship with the villagers BEFORE all this.
If they are fully legit. Maybe they could share with us here."


Ok "Anonymous",....which radio station? What time was it? We all know anyone can write anything on these comment sections. There is a difference between FACT and OPINIONS. Ready to put your money where your mouth is? Then please back up your comments with some facts that can be verified.

"This story also gives light as to why these villagers are so upset. The children have been in this man's company before."

Oh really? Do you know this for a fact?? Can you testify that it was those particular children? When exactly was this and are there any other witnesses to back up YOUR story? If you are so sure this actually happened, why didn't YOU go to the police with this information?


Because this is all gossip and innuendo, that's why.


The kids vanished, the village decided to take the advice of a witch doctor, and here we are....two tragedys instead of one. Two families devastated. Double the tears and heartache.




Vince and Cherie did nothing to or with those kids. Give it up.

Any more questions??? Carbondale???

Vince's Sister said...

re: "Hello from Carbondale"

....and your point is????



Sounds like someone is carrying a personal grudge. C'mon - just spit it out. Don't leave us in such suspense.

Methinks we may have a stalker on our hands - since you're still in Colorado and following Vince's movements.

Anonymous said...

"Hello from Carbondale"

My only point is going from a Carpenter to a croc saving is a giant leap. Vince was just a guy in CO with a dream.

A complete investigation needs to be conducted on the rose's.

They left endangered animals without protection. That is one of the issue's.

Vince knew the facts with the Mayan community.

Oh, the part about homeless, the last I heard from Vince he had a home in San Pedro.

Anonymous said...

I tried to post yesterday regarding the fact that ACES website has nothing on it about the background or qualifications of these two folks.
Anyhone who claims to be a scientist running a nonprofit "save the animals" business should at least let the pulic know their qualifications, don't you think???

Vince's Sister said...

Re: Anonymous said...
"Hello from Carbondale"

My only point is going from a Carpenter to a croc saving is a giant leap. Vince was just a guy in CO with a dream.

VINCE ALWAYS HAD BIG DREAMS - AND YOU KNOW WHAT, HE PRETTY MUCH ACCOMPLISHED THEM...

A complete investigation needs to be conducted on the rose's.

AND THIS INVESTIGATION WILL REVEAL THAT WHEN THEY LIVED IN CO. HE WAS A CONTRACTOR, AND SHE WAS A SCHOOL TEACHER...BIG DEAL.

They left endangered animals without protection. That is one of the issue's.

THE DEPT. IN BELIZE THAT ISSUED THEM PERMISSION TO KEEP THE CROCS IS THE SAME DEPT. THAT THEY WERE COLLECTING THE PROBLEMATIC CROCS FOR AT THE TIME THEIR HOUSE WAS BURN'T DOWN. I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S SAFE TO SAY THE DEPT. KNEW THEY WERE IN AC AT THE TIME AND NOT IN PG. WHERE ARE YOU GETTING ALL YOUR MISINFORMATION FROM????

Vince knew the facts with the Mayan community.

YEAH. THAT THEY WERE 10 MILES AWAY IN ANOTHER VILLAGE AND HE DIDN'T BOTHER THM.

Oh, the part about homeless, the last I heard from Vince he had a home in San Pedro.

VINCE HAS FRIENDS IN SAN PEDRO WHO LET THEM STAY AT THEIR HOUSE WHEN HE IS IN TOWN.

Let me guess- a relationship gone sour? Disgruntled ex-employee? grudge between neighbors????

signed,
Vince's Sister

Anonymous said...

you are all nuts...are we missing the point. You are actually worried about their qualifications...but it seems that everyone is ok with the fact that their place got burned down?....wow...again...that's the problem with BELIZE...crime has gone wild...may be the should make a TV Show out of it...

Just saw this today...BELIZE didn't even make the list on the GLOBAL PEACE INDEX....damn..even IRAQ is on there..even if its on last place....but it looks like IRAQ is safer place than BELIZE...

http://www.visionofhumanity.org/gpi-data/#/2010/scor

Vince's Sister said...

Anonymous said...
you are all nuts...are we missing the point. You are actually worried about their qualifications...but it seems that everyone is ok with the fact that their place got burned down?....wow...again...that's the problem with BELIZE...crime has gone wild...may be the should make a TV Show out of it...

Just saw this today...BELIZE didn't even make the list on the GLOBAL PEACE INDEX....damn..even IRAQ is on there..even if its on last place....but it looks like IRAQ is safer place than BELIZE...

http://www.visionofhumanity.org/gpi-data/#/2010/scor



HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! i SHOULD HAVE KNOWN!!!

Anonymous said...

There are two things that you can do if you want to help to right this sad matter. But first we must not blame the perpetrators because they were motivated by ignorance not from evil motives.
Secondly one can make a financial contribution as outlined in the article.
But never limit one's generosity as the first comment proposed, "My thoughts and prayers go to Vince & Cherie, and their remaining animals." That is the same as saying, "I choose to do absolutely nothing but aren't I wonderful?"

Anonymous said...

Wow, I didn't think Belize was such an ignorant country. A mob of idiots led by a 'psychic'?
I think I'll take Belize off any future travel itinerary in favor of somewhere safer... like Afghanistan.

Anonymous said...

At Mr. Rose's sister - ask your brother who he is suing for character defamation/slanderous words. Maybe someone should write more about WHY the woman was saying he might be a child molester before this happened.
I'm not saying that he DID do something. I'm saying that the police should do a thorough investigation and check properly into backgrounds.
Look, we in Belize have many reasons to be wary of aliens. Here are a few:

Captured in Punta Gorda - Patrick Brown
http://www.amandala.com.bz/index.php?id=9545

Captured in Punta Gorda - Derrick Yancey
http://edition.channel5belize.com/archives/27121

Captured in Belize City - Robert Snyder, child molester
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm%3Fid%3D68580&h=67148

Vince's Sister said...

Re:"There are two things that you can do if you want to help to right this sad matter. But first we must not blame the perpetrators because they were motivated by ignorance not from evil motives.
Secondly one can make a financial contribution as outlined in the article.
But never limit one's generosity as the first comment proposed, "My thoughts and prayers go to Vince & Cherie, and their remaining animals." That is the same as saying, "I choose to do absolutely nothing but aren't I wonderful?"


WOW. Talk about jumping to conclusions!!!! I really think some of you posters need to go back for a refresher course in Common Sense 101.

***R.e.m.e.m.b.e.r People***:
everyone can read what you post -
THINK before you type....

What makes you think I chose "to do absolutely nothing and think I'm wonderful"???

Have you hacked into my bank acccount in the last 3 days???? Are you listening in on my phone conversations???

signed,
Vince's Sister

Anonymous said...

Robert Snyder - lead a high profile life in Belize
http://www.amw.com/captures/brief.cfm?id=68580

Vince's Sister said...

I have absolutely NO doubt there are crooks (american or otherwise) hiding out in Belize!!!!! Vince and Cherie happened to have been swindled by one in the last couple of years. I would completely agree with you about foreigners being throughly checked out before being allowed to set up any kind of business, or long term stay. But that's why I am so confident about defending Vince being "clean". He is. It's that simple. They moved to Belize because his wife is from the East coast and she ALWAYS wanted to do this kind of work in a tropical area. After they got married they decided to do it! Nothing nefarious going on...just a couple with a dream. Were they rich? Not on your life!!! Every penny they ever had went into that place. That is why he feels so heart-broken and betrayed.

Anonymous said...

All these fake stories just like the stories that were put around when they took the alligator away from Haileys. The haileys people were charging 5 dollars to hit the alligator with a machete and they were mad when it was taken away. And this isn't the first time they used fire right. Who put the stories around?

Anonymous said...

Vince's Sister said...

I think she has said much already and should sit back in her FBI seat and stay out of Belize business.

You have no idea what happened in PG.

Many of us understand exactly why this happened.

It will all come out.

Tell your brother, "stop the media show". No one is interested, look at the comments all bad about him.

Leave us alone.

Anonymous said...

Common Sense 101

With the directives and opinion of Vince's Sister no wonder these folks had problems in Belize.

Don't call the local ignorant, we are all quests in other nations even posting on blogs.

Anonymous said...

A Mayan psychic? You gotta be kidding me...I wonder if its the same psychic that said the world is coming to end in 2012!...sounds more like Belize is coming to an end!

I sincerely hope they find those two kids that came up missing.

Vince's Sister said...

"Anonymous said...
Vince's Sister said...

I think she has said much already and should sit back in her FBI seat and stay out of Belize business."

WRONG SISTER!

"You have no idea what happened in PG."

AND YOU DO? BEST YOU GO TELL THE POLICE WHAT YOU KNOW.

"Many of us understand exactly why this happened."

I'M ALL EARS.

"It will all come out."

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ALL WAITING FOR. PROBABLY THE PARENTS OF THE 2 KIDS MOST OF ALL.

"Tell your brother, "stop the media show". No one is interested, look at the comments all bad about him."

IF YOU ARE INNOCENT SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOF TOPS!!!

OH, AND CNN IS VERY INTERESTED. NEW VIDEO:

Villagers destroy crocodile sanctuary - CNN Video
www.cnn.com

An angry mob destroyed a crocodile sanctuary built by an American couple blamed for the disappearance of two children.

"Leave us alone."

THEN STOP TELLING LIES ABOUT MY BROTHER, AND INSTEAD GO VOLUNTEER TO GO LOOK FOR THOSE KIDS.

September 8, 2010 4:25 PM

Vince's Sister said...

"Anonymous said...
Common Sense 101

With the directives and opinion of Vince's Sister no wonder these folks had problems in Belize.

Don't call the local ignorant, we are all quests in other nations even posting on blogs."


1. I NEVER USED THE WORD IGNORANT IN THIS ENTIRE THREAD. Different poster, not me.

2. CHECK THE THREAD YOURSELF, OR WITH THE MODS, IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME. THIS IS HOW RUMORS GET STARTED.......

3. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IN YOUR LAST SENTENCE.


Look peeps- I've got nothing against Belize or the people of Belize. I'm sure 99.999% of them are genuinely lovely decent hard-working family people. What I do have is a problem with people starting rumors on-line with no back up facts. 2 kids are missing, and an innocent family's home was burnt to the scorched earth.

September 8, 2010 4:28 PM

Anonymous said...

I've still yet to see any evidence that pseudoscientific quacks like homeopaths or psychics are anything other than pure evil. Not really surprised this happened honestly.

Vince's Sister said...

Anonymous said...
Vince's Sister said...

I think she has said much already and should sit back in her FBI seat and stay out of Belize business.

WRONG SISTER!

You have no idea what happened in PG.

AND YOU DO??? WHY AREN'T YOU AT THE POLICE STATION TALKING TO THE POLICE???

Many of us understand exactly why this happened.

DO TELL.

It will all come out.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL WAITING FOR. THE SOONER THE BETTER.

Tell your brother, "stop the media show". No one is interested

ONLY THE USA AND CNN WORLD!!!!


JIM, JIM, JIM, YOUR "TELL IS SHOWING!


We are NOT going away and either is this story until the guilty person who took the kids is found- and the guilty people who torched the house are brought to justice. Get used to it.

hal said...

Maybe the "anonymous" poster claiming to have inside information should be investigated. Seems to know a little too much. Maybe you are shifting attention to Vinny Rose to protect yourself or someone you know. And there is no such thing as anonymous on the internet. It is an easy thing to get around. Get that Carbondale ?

hal said...

Maybe the "anonymous" poster claiming to have inside information should be investigated. Seems to know a little too much. Maybe you are shifting attention to Vinny Rose to protect yourself or someone you know. And there is no such thing as anonymous on the internet. It is an easy thing to get around. Get that Carbondale ?

hal spry said...

Maybe the "anonymous" poster claiming to have inside information should be investigated. Seems to know a little too much. Maybe you are shifting attention to Vinny Rose to protect yourself or someone you know. And there is no such thing as anonymous on the internet. It is an easy thing to get around. Get that Carbondale ?

mtboat1 said...

Maybe the "anonymous" poster claiming to have inside information should be investigated. Seems to know a little too much. Maybe you are shifting attention to Vinny Rose to protect yourself or someone you know. And there is no such thing as anonymous on the internet. It is an easy thing to get around. Get that Carbondale ?

hal said...

Maybe the "anonymous" poster claiming to have inside information should be investigated. Seems to know a little too much. Maybe you are shifting attention to Vinny Rose to protect yourself or someone you know. And there is no such thing as anonymous on the internet. It is an easy thing to get around. Get that Carbondale ?

Anonymous said...

I think the anonymous poster claiming to have inside information needs to be questioned by the law. Could be blaming Vinny Rose to divert attention.

hal spry said...

Too many posts....not intentional. But I guess you get the point now aye?

Lett said...

It’s easier to blame foreigners than to acknowledge the moral decay of our society. We’ve been pretending for the longest time that Belize does not have a violent crime problem.

Vince's Sister said...

Ooop's, my bad! Guess calling {an unusual person} out was a thread killer. My apologies.

Anonymous said...

I would never have started to have such bad feelings about Vince if he had not gone in a rage during the TV interview on Channel 7 in Belize and referred to the Mayans as not human, savages, savages that Belizeans should not allow to live in their country. Whe people are angry their underlying prejudices, biases, and entitlement tends to rise to the surface.
So, I went on line and read that transcript again.Interesting that on Sept 2, the same Thursday Vince reported that that 4 boys with machetes showed up at his gate in regards to the missing children, the police also conducted a search of Vince's premises.
Vince said he thought nothing of the boys' visit and jumped on a plane. So he forgot about the police search of the premises that same day? That seems strange that he would forget that. Maybe someone could see what time he jumped on a plane and how that time corresponds to the time the police did the search.
If he was not there, how did the police access the property? Who is in charge of the place and the crocs if he is not there?

Vince's sister said...

Please read the stories again. Vince did NOT use the word "Mayans" in his original statement. Not even ONCE.

The police and Father went to Vince's house when he was already GONE.

Vince's house was up on stilts (10 feet). Anyone who looked through the kitchen window to see limes HAD TO WALK UP A 10 FT FLIGHT OF STAIRS IN ORDER TO GET TO WHERE THE KITCHEN WINDOW WAS!!!

Vince and Cherie have 3 lime trees on their own property. Of course there were probably limes in the kitchen.

hal spry said...

To anonymous....you are not anonymous.
I believe Vince was speaking about the CRIMINALS who burned his life.
It is obvious that you are intent on throwing dirt on the Roses. This raises the question why. What is your involvement in this? I smell something foul in you.

OhioDruid said...

Did you read the article 'Anomymous'?

He 'jumped' on a plane to go do some work at the request of the authorities in Belize. So why do you try and imply he was doing something nefarious?

And the Article also said the police search the premises because they recieved a report (based on the psychic no doubt) that the children where there. Even if they had little reason to believe the report they would have checked it out even if just to cover their own a$$es.

As to Vince's comment in the interview. I expect he may regret his words, but his home, all his possesions and the last 6 years of his work had just been destroyed. Don't you think most people in that position would be a little upset and might say things that in hindsight were unwise?

Walkingfires said...

No one.... not one single comment has mentioned that there are still two children... ages 9 and 11... who are missing.

Not one comment said - what can we do to help find the 2 missing children?

No social intranet network has been created to raise awareness about 2 missing children - - heightened awareness which may put pressure on local Central American governments to assist in finding 2 missing children.

We're all one; we're all a part of each other. Right now, 2 innocent young parts of us are missing.

hal spry said...

Did you bail on us Jim? Come on back.

hal spry said...

Blog author or administrator can you tell me why my comments are not posting any longer?

Anonymous said...

Drake:

Look at this. People following a person who has no idea what they are doing. Kill helpless crocs that were saved by two great people. I account Belize for not protecting the people or infasturcture. I place the blame on the psychic who led this attack. Laws and guidelines should be put into effect by law enforcement.

I got these numbers off the Global Peace Index:

Source: http://www.supremestores.com/Global_Peace_Index/encyclopedia.htm?show_all#Global_Peace_Index_rankings

Iraq: 144
Afghanistan: 143
Pakistan: 137
Iran: 99
US: 83

Im amazed people even live there. All the crime that must go on.
Beleze is a broken country. Saddining.

ZOOMOM said...

Does Belize have “Amber Alerts” when there are missing kids?
Were missing posters plastered on every street corner in PG within 24 hours?
Were missing posters faxed and handed out at every store and business in the rest of BZ?
Did the Parents go to the new stations the first night and demand on theTV News that people look for these 2 missing kids?

No. None of this took place. Who’s fault is that?

Certainley not the Roses fault. They had no clue what was about to happen to their world.

4 people came to their gate, and asked them if they had seen 2 small kids. They said no. Then they continued to AC to complete their croc-catching assignment for the Dept. of Forestry. They capture problem crocs that are a real threat to the citizens of Belize (for free). They use their own gas, their own vehicles, their own equipment, and staff.

The missing kids (terrible!) and the arson fire of the Rose’s home( also terrible!) are two seperate tragedies.

The Rose’s had NOTHING to do with the kids NOT BEING LOOKED FOR BY THE PROPER AUTHORITIES IN THE QUICKEST WAY POSSIBLE.

Vince's sister said...

TO WALKINGFIRES:

1. Does Belize have “Amber Alerts” when there are missing kids?
Were missing posters plastered on every street corner in PG within 24 hours?
Were missing posters faxed and handed out at every store and business in the rest of BZ?
Did the Parents go to the new stations the first night and demand on theTV News that people look for these 2 missing kids?
No. None of this took place. Who’s fault is that?
Certainley not the Roses fault. They had no clue what was about to happen to their world.
4 people came to their gate, and asked them if they had seen 2 small kids. They said no. Then they continued to AC to complete their croc-catching assignment for the Dept. of Forestry. They capture problem crocs that are a real threat to the citizens of Belize (for free). They use their own gas, their own vehicles, their own equipment, and staff.
The missing kids (terrible!) and the arson fire of the Rose’s home( also terrible!) are two separate tragedies.
The Rose’s had NOTHING to do with the kids NOT BEING LOOKED FOR BY THE PROPER AUTHORITIES IN THE QUICKEST WAY POSSIBLE.

hal spry said...

For whatever reason some apologist gives, it does not change the fact that a crime was committed. I ask this: What should the penalty be for burning down the house of your neighbor, and killing Crocs?
What of the weapons. They came with guns and machetes, were they going to hack and shoot some body?
Now they are asking for them back saying they are needed for work. Can they be trusted to have these weapons? In the US if you commit a crime with a weapon you don’t get it back.
In a blog I was responding to, I was threatened with being burned as well, for defending my old friend Vince Rose.
I have turned that information over to the PG Police.
Lastly ….what is the status of the canine search?

Anonymous said...

I REFER TO MY PREVIOUS POST OF SEPT8 2:24PM
"At Mr. Rose's sister - ask your brother who he is suing for character defamation/slanderous words. Maybe someone should write more about WHY the woman was saying he might be a child molester before this happened."
I THOUGHT I WOULD HAVE FOUND AN
ANSWER since I am now back from my holidays!

Vincent Rose has been deceiving the outside media right from the start. ALL of his stories read "While we were away...two children went missing" when in fact he was questioned BEFORE he left Punta Gorda!

MISLEADING THE MEDIA makes me sure that he has something to hide!!!

Anonymous said...

Vince Rose said that he got along well with villagers. He said he donated to the community (police, schools and hospital).
In my opinion, he was furious that the police DARED to question him...because of his donations. THIS is why he raged a publicity war on Belize...not only the people of Toledo. He launched his media attacks immediately after.
Moreover, with this statement “We're not going to get bullied out of town by a group of uncivilized people,” he IS calling these people and the entire Belize uncivilized. It is a personal attack on me - on every Belizean.

Will the REAL Vince Rose please stand up?

hal spry said...

notAnonymous: So you like to throw accusations around ? Let's just look at one of you asinine statements. {“We're not going to get bullied out of town by a group of uncivilized people,”} he IS calling these people and the entire Belize uncivilized. It is a personal attack on me - on every Belizean.
How is that calling the Belize people anything? Show me.
Was that mob behaving in an uncivilized way? I think if a person says any thing at all about a local, they are branded racist.
As for the lies about the Roses....
What is your connection? It is obvious you have a grudge against Vince.

Belize Trip said...

Good article that Belize is full of places and amazing and wonderful animal life but you have to take care of our resources and natural beauty, greetings

halspry said...

here is a link to the Facebook page,
to set up a reward for the return of the children.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/topic.php?uid=142266919150023&topic=106

hal spry said...

I have just been told that the "villagers " have gone to the PG Police and said they are going to Ambergris Cay and burn out Vince and Cherie Rose AGAIN.
Why were they not arrested? Why have the PG Police not done a report on the arson? Who was the man who was detained and released , who had pictures of the children? The PG Police need to come up with some answers, because there are many questions.

hal spry said...

News on the ACES arson and murder of crocodiles:
At this time Five crocodiles were found dead, hacked
and slaughtered.
And still no arrests.
Still no police report.

hal spry said...

REWARD. 12750 BZ
Here is a link to a reward fund for the Rash children,set up by an anonymous group. Please pass this information on , Maybe this will jog someones memory.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/12750-reward